Thicker brass than winchester or remington. Modify your hundreds accordingly. That said I'd level the quality nearly as good Otherwise better than the preceding mentioned. Have gotten 4 reloads off manufacturing unit loaded off the shelf so can’t complain about that and Many of them are reloadable all over again. https://israelzriyo.ltfblog.com/26295114/an-unbiased-view-of-17-hornet-brass-in-stock